>> literally every hour is accounted for

I saw one company where early-career BA/PMs (often offshore) would sit alongside developers and "keep them company" almost all day via zoom.

I would just terminate the call. Like... hell no.

Everyone's complaining about that as a developer, and rightly so. But that can't be easy for the PMs, either, trying to find a way to "add value" when they have no idea what's going on.

I'd expect there to be some "unexpected network outages" regularly in that kind of situation...

Yep, that would be my own personal hell.

This is kind of cool as an alternative process to develop apps with. Literally product in a zoom window telling you what to build as you go along. No standups, no refinement, no retros etc. Just a PM that really knows what the customer needs and the developer just building those as you go along.

Twice the billable hours! /s