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refuser 2 days ago

Not especially surprising, but there’s an awfully large elephant in the room that likely directly contributed to this necessity that goes completely unmentioned.

mgdev 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Matt's only real problem is not owning his ambition openly.

Trying to publicly argue the moral high ground was a stupid, unforced error.

It didn't need to be moralized at all. Just make the changes you want to make, piss off a vocal minority, then get back to winning and making boatloads of money by executing exceptionally.

The problem, I suspect, is that Matt values how certain people perceive him more than he values winning. It's unfortunate, because he's clearly a very good executer and strategist. He's getting in his own way.

Griffinsauce a day ago | parent | next [-]

> he's clearly a very good executer and strategist. He's getting in his own way.

Apparently not. I'd argue he was perceived as such but has thoroughly proven the opposite by now. There were so many stations to get off the train.

mgdev an hour ago | parent [-]

Automattic is a $7b+ company. That's the twenty-year body of work you should use to evaluate his execution and strategy.

bravetraveler a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ignore the financial valuations, man is a worm. I'd call him a 'hack' but that might imply talents given where we are.

Through his shitshow, he tried - and failed - to curry favor with an OSS puppet. Not any particular software... like one might think, but the whole "thing".

There was never any moment where WPEngine was beholden for offering WordPress services. Everything was strained to the point he was trying to redefine OSS.

He got in his way, ours as members of the public, and that of WPEngine. Repeatedly... and I don't see enough reflection/reason from Matt to believe this will change. Personally, I'd hesitate to promote his strategies or skills.

Hamfisted is a better message. Or none, take the wind away. We don't want his ambition or to hear about it. It's demonstrably shit.

Edit: just in case this needs saying, I've never been affiliated with either company. Don't waste your limited time looking for me, Matt.

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KennyBlanken 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

IMHO moralizing wasn't really the problem.

The extremely erratic behavior, the ego, the fixation with vengeance, harassing organizations legally using the Wordpress name, abusing his power at the wordpress foundation, using it to punish Automattic competitors...

He pissed off a lot of people, but worse: he made a lot of people nervous.

reshlo a day ago | parent | prev [-]

If more people valued how others perceive them more than they valued winning, the world would be a better place.

solardev 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Drupal's sudden popularity?

uoaei 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Is the elephant in the room with us now? (Mind filling in?)

alphager 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The legal threats against WPEngine and their customers, the lawsuits between WP/Automatic/WPF and WPEngine, the banning of several contributors, the takeover of WP Plugins on WP.org, the shenanigans with several check boxes on the login pages of WP.org.

Analemma_ a day ago | parent [-]

While it wasn't as damaging from a legal or (business) reputational perspective, he also peeked into the Tumblr database in order to doxx people who were making fun of him, which doesn't say great things about his stability or fitness to run a company.

xd1936 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://mullenweg.wtf/

https://web.archive.org/web/20241026031947/https://bullenweg...

stevage 2 days ago | parent [-]

Holy moly.

I never heard of this drama before.

This was crazy:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WPDrama/comments/1hlp08d/what_drama...

ornornor 2 days ago | parent [-]

That was wild.

maccard 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2y7eyp3zpo

65 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Matt Mullenweg is the elephant.

wiether 2 days ago | parent [-]

Since Matt regularly comments here, and given the expression chosen; I'm pretty certain that they know who the elephant is.

foobarchu 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

His account has been inactive for almost all of 2025, I think his legal team must have taken away the password.

lolinder a day ago | parent [-]

He has alts he uses that are probably still active.

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chris_wot 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Matt commenting here was part of the reason he is in the mess he is in.

bananapub 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

the author of that email has been having a very public breakdown for months now, mostly consisting of being a prick and trying to harm the community and a competitor.

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