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zbowling 2 days ago

We forgot how to build websites like this. Lost art. Even the page is encoded iso-8859-1 and not UTF-8.

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NelsonMinar 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Unfortunately you can't spell Hawaiʻi in ISO-8859-1.

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Aloisius 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

That's what html entities are for.

Though I'm not sure who decided the ʻokina needed its own character rather than the traditionally used apostrophe. It's a pain to type without a Hawaiian keyboard.

Besides, the Hawaiian diacritics are not part of English orthography, so the name of the state (and the big island) is just "Hawaii" in English. In Hawaiian, it's Hawaiʻi.

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dmoy 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> Though I'm not sure who decided the ʻokina needed its own character rather than the traditionally used apostrophe. It's a pain to type without a Hawaiian keyboard.

I dunno, the glottal stop sounds pretty different from normal English usage of apostrophe. If anything it's closer to - than ', like in uh-oh.

French uses both grave and acute accent marks, and they sound very different.

Makes sense to me

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NelsonMinar 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The ʻokina is not an apostrophe.

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Aloisius 2 days ago | parent [-]

It was originally represented with an apostrophe.

It seems the apostrophe started to be inverted in Hawaiian in the 1940s.

	▲	NelsonMinar 17 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It's not just the shape of the glyph. An apostrophe is a punctuation mark. An ʻokina is a letter. In Unicode, U+0027 is marked "Other Punctuation". U+02BB is "Modifier Letter". This matters to software.

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brianwawok 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

But does anyone not know what Hawaii is?

	▲	stagalooo 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		The island or the state?

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freedomben 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Need to write a web extension to inject some javascript to show a loading screen for a few seconds and download a few MB of js so it feels like a modern website. Should probably wrap the whole thing in a SPA too so we have options in the future