| ▲ | vlovich123 2 days ago |
| Can’t believe they don’t link to the actual paper: https://academic.oup.com/pasj/advance-article/doi/10.1093/pa... |
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| ▲ | Kye 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| >> More information: Shimpei Nishimoto et al, Infrared Bubble Recognition in the Milky Way and Beyond Using Deep Learning, Publications of the Astronomical Society of Japan (2025). DOI: 10.1093/pasj/psaf008 It links to a doi.org URL which directs the browser to what you linked. |
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| ▲ | shagie 2 days ago | parent [-] | | And has the value of "it doesn't go dead as easily" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_object_identifier > The DOI for a document remains fixed over the lifetime of the document, whereas its location and other metadata may change. Referring to an online document by its DOI should provide a more stable link than directly using its URL. But if its URL changes, the publisher must update the metadata for the DOI to maintain the link to the URL. It is the publisher's responsibility to update the DOI database. If they fail to do so, the DOI resolves to a dead link, leaving the DOI useless. More about it at Digital Object Identifier (DOI) Under the Context of Research Data Librarianship - https://doi.org/10.7191%2Fjeslib.2021.1180 | | |
| ▲ | jgord 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I thought thats why we had urls not only IP addresses .. which reminds me, who has control over DOI.org ... eg. is it DOGE-safe ?
likewise arXiv .. can it easily be co-opted / subsumed ? | | |
| ▲ | sebmellen 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I’ve met the folks behind DOI. Very nice people (Jonathan Clark in particular). It’s an independent foundation and they have backups/contingency plans established with major universities to preserve the DOI records in the event the foundation fails. https://www.doi.org/the-foundation/board-and-governance/ | | |
| ▲ | jgord 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | .. we need a Foundation .. and a second Foundation :] | | |
| ▲ | hkt 2 days ago | parent [-] | | It's just like O'Brien always said.. you've _got_ to have a redundant backup. (Third foundation?) |
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| ▲ | j-pb 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Their whole organisation should have been a hash function... DOI must die | | |
| ▲ | PaulHoule 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Should be done with Web3. | | |
| ▲ | j-pb 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Scientific publishing is one of the very few legit use cases for block-chains imo. But magnet links and the BitTorrent mainline hash-table are a better DOI than DOI. | | |
| ▲ | sebmellen a day ago | parent [-] | | DOIs exist so they can be human readable and simultaneously indicate the source and veracity of it. They’re somewhat gated as well which serves a function. | | |
| ▲ | j-pb a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Yet they are bad at every one of those points. * An auto increment ID is just as human non-readable as a UUID, it's just easier to get silent collisions from typos. * The Source is metadata that belongs in a metadata system, not into the ID itself * the veracity is worthless without verifiability * gated-ness is just an anti-feature caused by the lack of verifiability If you you classify identifiers along different axis of their properties, you'll notice that DOIs actually inhabit the completely wrong quadrant for their use-case.
(https://docs.rs/tribles/0.5.1/tribles/id/index.html) | |
| ▲ | __MatrixMan__ a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Are they human readable? As for veracity, wouldn't baking a digital signature into the paper itself be far more reliable? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they exist, but they appear to guard against humans who are lazy and make mistakes sometimes rather than against a powerful adversary motivated to interfere with science. It might be time for an upgrade. |
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| ▲ | __MatrixMan__ a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Maybe it would be better to identify papers via a hash of their contents so that there's nothing to co-opt. | | |
| ▲ | jgord a day ago | parent [-] | | ... theres an argument to having arXiv paper hashes, and/or important digitalia checksums put on a blockchain. detect-ability of state-actor post-facto editing : DEI related or otherwise |
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| ▲ | zeckalpha 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | However: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00616-5 |
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| ▲ | aneidon 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I couldn't see their link either until I turned off Ublock Origin on the page |
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| ▲ | saint_yossarian a day ago | parent | next [-] | | It's blocked by "EasyList – Newsletter Notices", the annoyances lists are often a bit too aggressive. | |
| ▲ | Mistletoe 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've been trying UBO lite and giving it a chance, but have been having nothing but weird issues with it. The internet doesn't work as well anymore, so thanks Google. I think it's time for me to mosey on over to Brave from Chrome finally. | | |
| ▲ | Sophira a day ago | parent [-] | | May I ask what issues you're having with it? (I haven't switched over yet.) | | |
| ▲ | Mistletoe 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | I have been getting weird single screen text ads on youtube that I have to press skip ad on. And just general weirdness everywhere of videos not playing etc. that I didn't ever have with the real Ublock Origin. |
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| ▲ | dylan604 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | what kind of nonsense are they doing with a link that uBO would block it? is it a 3rd party JS library that assembles an element that then places the link as stylized embed? I'd have expected more tracking type of stuff with it, but inspecting the element appears that the link is clean. my uBO did not block it???? | | |
| ▲ | wormius a day ago | parent | next [-] | | see sibling comment to yours:
"saint_yossarian 2 hours ago | root | parent | next [–] It's blocked by "EasyList – Newsletter Notices", the annoyances lists are often a bit too aggressive." | |
| ▲ | tokai 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Obviously they didn't do anything. If the link doesn't show, its due to personal uBO settings. | | |
| ▲ | dylan604 2 days ago | parent [-] | | you don't say? like when i stated that my uBO did not block it? you think i wouldn't come to the same conclusion? |
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| ▲ | __MatrixMan__ 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Not linking to the actual paper is exactly the sort of thing that I've come to expect of phys.org |
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| ▲ | tokai 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Factually wrong comment at the top. Very HN. |
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| ▲ | phito 2 days ago | parent [-] | | I can't see the link either. | | |
| ▲ | tokai 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Well its there. There is a full reference with link at the end of the article. | | |
| ▲ | wormius a day ago | parent [-] | | See above comment: saint_yossarian 2 hours ago | root | parent | next [–]
It's blocked by "EasyList – Newsletter Notices", the annoyances lists are often a bit too aggressive. |
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