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As I wrote in my comment it's a cool project but the way it's presented as a takedown of React is so ironically wrong. People pick React when they need a rendering layer and want to write the rest themselves. People who need a monolith SSG that is optimized for this thing choose Vue/Astro/Next and the like and that is Nue's niche. If you write a rendering library that beats React at its use cases then be my guest please brag about it

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tipiirai 3 days ago | parent [-]

Thanks for the take—glad you think the project’s cool. I get where you’re coming from: React’s a rendering layer for folks who want control, while Nue’s tackling a broader scope, closer to Vue/Astro/Next combo. The ‘takedown’ vibe isn’t the goal, though—more like highlighting how web standards can slash bloat across the board, even for something as ‘simple’ as a button. Nue’s not here to just beat React at rendering; it’s rethinking the whole stack to avoid needing so many layers in the first place. Fair point on use cases—definitely food for thought as we push forward

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troupo 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

So far this "re-thinking" is just dumping loads of innerHtml's and trashing the entire DOM.

The only reason it's fast is because browsers have been optimized beyond any sane reason.

E.g. your table demo removes and re-adds all rows on every button press. This is not re-thinking. This is throwing all we've learned out of the window and starting from scratch.

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tipiirai 3 days ago | parent [-]

Nue JS reactive library is based DOM diffing. The next version also has keyed rows.

	▲	troupo 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		I looked into the code linked elsewhere in the thread and then just watched the behavior in the browser dev tools. Delete the entire thing, recreate, delete the entire thing, recreate. That's as far as the amazing web standards will take you. As soon as you start talking reactive, dom diffing, and keyed rows, you're literally in the territory of the frameworks you so love to berate. Frameworks, especially modern ones, do all that and so much more (and leverage web standards whenever possible if those give an advantage)

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throwaway290 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Cool, good luck! Building on top of Web standards is definitely a great idea and your (non-Rust) demo is pretty good. If I wanted to build a static webapp and was in the mood to play with something new I might try it.