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simion314 2 days ago

So CERN and similar? you think it could have been done without any coordonation? Like 2 guys faking under they make it USA style ?

wahnfrieden a day ago | parent | next [-]

They mistake transparency for performativity, and secrecy for practicality

ffsm8 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, what actual value did cern produce beyond theoretical research with no application in sight?

jkaptur a day ago | parent | next [-]

In case you're serious: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_World_Wide_Web

greenavocado a day ago | parent [-]

ARPANET and its successor TCP/IP already provided the fundamental networking infrastructure. Various hypertext systems were also being developed independently in and before the 1980s, like Ted Nelson's Xanadu project and Bill Atkinson's HyperCard. The key ideas of linked documents and markup languages were "in the air" so to speak. However, CERN provided some unique conditions that helped the WWW succeed where other systems didn't. It had an immediate practical need - helping physicists share information across institutions. It was developed in an open, non-commercial environment that encouraged sharing. CERN made the WWW technology freely available without royalties. The international nature of CERN helped drive early adoption across countries.

Without CERN, I think we would have eventually seen some form of hyperlinked document system emerge from either academia or industry, but it might have been more proprietary or fragmented.

rtsil a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Theoretical research in itself is one of the actual values. Any real-world application from CERN are purely incidental (albeit welcome).

The other values include redistribution of wealth, support for businesses, job creation, sustaining internal intellectual capabilities without depending on the whims of fickle corporations, and probably many others that I can't think of for now.

ravetcofx a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Many things including New forms of cancer treatment https://home.cern/news/news/knowledge-sharing/fighting-cance...

supermatt a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The web. Some people use that.

simion314 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

And NASA? they just send robots in space to make pictures? Not sure why you are here and not on TikTok with such anti science ideology.