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ipunchghosts 4 months ago

I am with you! Been programming since I was 10 and have 20YoE. Many of my prototypes have grown into full fledged products, I have 40+ published papers, and I am regularly sought out for advice and help by those who know me. Everyone i have been, I am always told I am a good catch.

However, I won't do leet coding. I want to hear about why I should come work for u. What about my works makes u think I could help ubm with your problem. Then let's have a talk about your problems and where I can create value for you.

My experience in hiring is that leet coders are good one trick ponies. But long term don't become technical peers.

codr7 4 months ago | parent [-]

Part of the problem is there just aren't a lot of people out there who can correctly judge that level of experience, and looking up the spectrum tends to simply look weird.

ipunchghosts 4 months ago | parent [-]

I agree. Do you have any thoughts on how to mitigate this? After all, its in your best advantage and the companies to hire someone with talents because of the value they can bring.

xnyan 4 months ago | parent | next [-]

Unfortunately (at least in my opinion) the way to mitigate it is make contacts, friends, colleagues etc. Meet people, stay in touch with them. In my experience relationships are by far the most important aspect of a career. I'm not naturally someone who forms these relationships easily, but it's by far the most valuable and important thing I've done in terms of the jobs I've had.

codr7 4 months ago | parent [-]

It's VERY rare for me to work with people capable of even seeing the level I'm working at, sad but true. I suspect my solutions simply look weird to them, maybe with a touch of NIH-syndrome; even if they eventually grow to appreciate the integrity of the code. And it's difficult to see code that's never written, which is feel is the biggest win I bring to the table.

This means I'm mostly judged by my ability to perform mindless drone work.

codr7 4 months ago | parent | prev [-]

Not really, except having a lot of experience on board from the start.

Which will also naturally attract more of the same.