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ghaff 4 months ago

Well, they also promote people based on impact and, with rare exceptions, if you're holed up in a corner someplace you're probably not having a huge amount of impact.

floating-io 4 months ago | parent | next [-]

Reality is that the ones quietly holed up in the corner are usually doing all the unsexy maintenance-type work that the extroverts don't want to do (because it's not sexy).

Nobody cares about that work... until it doesn't get done. And so, nobody doing it gets promoted.

ambicapter 4 months ago | parent | next [-]

Communicating the importance of your work is a professional skill.

ghaff 4 months ago | parent [-]

And if it actually isn't very important, you should probably find something else to do or move on in some other way.

ghaff 4 months ago | parent | prev [-]

Or it gets outsourced which is what often happens.

apwell23 4 months ago | parent | prev [-]

If it was all about impact then ppl wouldn't be paying thousands of dollars to learn to play golf with their bosses. But you knew that already.

ghaff 4 months ago | parent [-]

Is closing deals on the golf course even still a thing these days? I suppose it probably is in some circles but I haven't seen it in a couple of decades of tech industry life when it was more likely to be fun runs or skiing.

apwell23 4 months ago | parent [-]

closing deals with your boss? what does that even mean.

ghaff 4 months ago | parent [-]

Getting a promotion?

But my broader point was that golf course socializing seems like mostly a different world today, at least in my tech circles, relative to other venues.