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call me Naive and paint me a fool, but I do think this is going to go down as Musk's lifetime achievement. Think about it, he has money, he has arguably built great companies, and now, for his masterpiece, he can, and I honestly believe he will.....CURE DEMOCRACY. I want him to succeed, because the next logical giant is CAPITALISM, and that one, in the collective interest of humanity, and planetary survival, needs FIXING!! Almost every system created by man, eventually turns corrupt, because for some reason we interfere, we want to tip the balance, instead of give free will and life to the things we create. The ecology of a system should be self-regulating, that's how NATURE operates.

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notepad0x90 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

cure democracy? they just broke it. did you vote for musk? did anyone? are you thinking right? A fascist dictator just ruined america for good and this can't be fixed. Just the reputation of america alone is ruined for generations to come, and I bet you are not even thinking of what "reputation" means, it isn't "like me please" type of a reputation but "let's avoid wars and trade with each other" reputation. I honestly think people like you deserve the america these evil people are creating, too bad the rest of us are stuck with you. You just lost our country and you have no idea what a precious and wonderful thing we've lost. You put your trust in a greedy evil billionaire, foolishness for the history books.

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bzmrgonz 2 days ago | parent [-]

It doesn't sound like you are in an emotional state to have this discussion, which is ok, but the findings are undeniable. I don't see anyone arguing, "they're making up the fraud". So from an objective point of view, an audit of this magnitude has been dreamt of by both parties for decades, heck probably going back a century. No one has been able to do it, lacking either collective will, or, more famously, bureaucratic pushback. My argument is, and you can ask any senior or experienced executive this(tho I think it's actually an accounting principle), anyways...when a top level professional arrives at a new job/department/unit/etc, the first order of business is "finding your salary", this is essentially your brain finding your salary among the waste or leaks in the space you were asked to manage. This is what DOGE is tasked with, no matter the cost, stopping the waste will pay for the cost, even if it cost trillions(which I highly doubt), you can amortize that and still get USA's bottom line in the black.

	▲	cristiancavalli 13 hours ago \| parent [-]
		There are a litany of articles taking about the exact lying you say they are not doing: https://www.businessinsider.com/doge-savings-estimate-websit... https://www.axios.com/2025/02/19/doge-musk-audit-mistake-sav... https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/doge-wall-of-receipts-shows... So yeah they are lying; whether intentionally or unintentionally. At this point I’m not sure what is worse.

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imperial_march a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I agree. It's nice to hear someone grounded discuss it.

A lot of people (particularly on Reddit) have been driven insane by psyops, they can't critically think outside what they are told to think anymore. It's amazing to watch, and also quite sad/scary

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bzmrgonz 14 hours ago | parent [-]

I tell you man, this DOGE animal is going to make politicians run scared all over the world. This is the best thing since Science won the climate change fake debate. DOGE is actually draining the swamp, you know how many politicians have promised and even ran full campaigns on reform, or financial austerity, or fighting corruption/big spending/etc. Mark my words, other countries are going to start formulating their own version of DOGE. This is like the upstart BUKELE and his curving of gang violence in record timing (3 years). There are so many nations trying to replicate that because Citizens are asking for their own BUKELE at home.

	▲	cristiancavalli 13 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The man engaged in massive human rights abuses… https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/06/el-salvador-p...