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phendrenad2 2 days ago

Most people in the US don't know that there are three branches of government, or if they do, they don't know WHY there are three, and even if they know that, they don't know what each branch's purpose is.

This is absolutely the job of the executive branch.

Perhaps DOGE should have been created by an act of congress, but in reality that's just a formality because the Republicans control Congress right now.

moduspol 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Trump renamed USDS to DOGE via executive order. It's true that it's not an agency, but it was created during the Obama administration.

I'm not sure it'd be better as an agency because there are strict rules and hierarchies around agencies. The way DOGE is operating right now, seemingly, is:

- Agency directors are directed by executive order to work with DOGE and give them access to what they need

- DOGE team members are actually hired as employees of the agencies in which they are operating

- DOGE makes recommendations to agency directors on what things to cut

- Agency directors review recommendations and make cuts

This means that all cuts are being recommended and made within the scope of each individual agency. It is not the case that one agency is telling another what to do, and all decisions are ultimately being made by each agency's director. It simplifies the hierarchy and authority.

cryptonector a day ago | parent [-]

Correct. It also sidesteps all questions of legality.

cryptonector a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

DOGE was created by an act of Congress after Obama first created it by an executive order. Its formal name is United States Digital Service.

TomK32 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

It is only the job of the executive because Congress told them so via Acts of Congress. Looking at e.g. the firings of the inspector generals, Congress has put very clear language into its laws on why and when those inspector generals can be removed by their post, yet Trump and his cronies ignored this.

It should not be a formality because while it is true that the Republicans have a slight majority in Congress, the founding fathers never intended this most powerful of the three branches to be run by parties. The power in Congress is split up geographically for this very reason, but the party system, that secured its seats with gerrymandering, is highly toxic for a functioning legislative power in the US. It is disappointing to see Republicans in Congress not restricting the executive orders of the new self-proclaimed King.

cryptonector a day ago | parent [-]

The president can fire any executive branch officer at any time for any reason regardless of what any statute says about it.

There are two precedents for this to my knowledge, though there may be more:

  - the failed impeachment of
    Andrew Johnson established
    that the president can fire
    principal officers without
    the Senate's advice and
    consent

  - Spicer vs. Biden, which
    established that the president
    can fire officers with fixed
    terms
> self-proclaimed King

He was clearly trolling. Grammatically that tweet does not parse like himself calling himself a king. For all you know he loves the British king, or some other king, or maybe he was referring to Jesus. But he got what he wanted from that quip: it got reported, along with credit for ending congestion pricing in Manhattan. Why the media still falls for that, I don't know.