| ▲ | FirmwareBurner 2 days ago |
| Having a slow and archaic birocratic system doesn't stop governments going totalitarian on their citizens. Case in point In Germany the Polizei will SWAT and arrest you if you post a meme on social media that angers someone's dignity. That's not a joke that actually happens. This typical German "our government is not slow and inefficient, it's just protection against totalitarianism" is pure cope. Edit: @helloplanets Source: https://youtu.be/-bMzFDpfDwc?si=eIUkEuDBx3iX_TEx |
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| ▲ | helloplanets 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Case in point In Germany the Polizei will swat and arrest you if you post a meme on social media that angers someone's dignity. That's not a joke that actually happens. Source? |
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| ▲ | literalAardvark 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
| That's because slander isn't protected speech and is directly illegal. It's not totalitarianism, just encoded politeness. You can still say anything, with a modicum of decency. |
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| ▲ | Eddy_Viscosity2 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Sounds like a system which could easily be abused. "politeness" and "decency" are ripe for all manner of interpretations. In the US we see that the only things keeping authoritarianism at bay is larger the people following norms (like the peaceful transfer of power after losing an election), and the executive obeying orders from the judiciary. All it takes is for a group to not to that any more and boom. Short road to where 'slander' means any criticism (however objectively true and justified) of people in power and you get a swat team at your door and steel boot on your neck. | | |
| ▲ | literalAardvark a day ago | parent | next [-] | | The US is in no position to tell anyone about how to avoid authoritarianism. | | |
| ▲ | dragonwriter a day ago | parent | next [-] | | On the other hand, we are providing on object lesson in how not to avoid authoritarianism, so there’s that... | |
| ▲ | FirmwareBurner a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | >The US is in no position to tell anyone about how to avoid authoritarianism.
You're deflecting valid criticism about Germany's speech censorship with "Americans should shut up". Unbelievable. |
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| ▲ | FirmwareBurner 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | >Sounds like a system which could easily be abused. It is constantly abused, the issue is Germans have gaslit themselves into thinking that it's the right thing to do "because nazism was bad", so they have Nazi levels of speech censorship to fight imaginary Nazism, because once you label someone who disagrees with you as a Nazi you are free to censor them, which then in turn is causing the uprising of actual Nazism because people are tired of being censored for having opinions that oppose the mainstream narrative. Germans are really a difficult bunch to reason with logically. | | |
| ▲ | computerthings 2 days ago | parent [-] | | What do you know about the deliberations and discussions went into these laws. > because once you label someone who disagrees with you as a Nazi you are free to censor them, Show examples of it. |
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| ▲ | FirmwareBurner 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | >That's because slander isn't protected speech and is directly illegal. In one case it wasn't slander. A person pointed out a politician's Nazi/Stati past on social media and he still sued abusing the "muh dignity" bullshit law. | | |
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