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So, if the president orders a public employee to execute a random person on the street, they have no legal basis to refuse?

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tored 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Probably not.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix

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intended 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

This was the specific argument raised in the SC verdict - but this is a question of whether the President is immune.

The question here is just BS. The President created organizations to enact the executives will.

The executive is now saying they want the power to come back to them. Which it always was - they had to work through the structures they created.

Apparently they dont want the institutions.

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lazyasciiart 2 days ago | parent [-]

That’s simply not true. Congress has the power to organize the executive branch, not the president. Congress created the agencies and departments and they cannot be closed by the president.

Edit:

Constitutional explanation: https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution-conan/article-2/sec...

report on Congress control of executive branch agencies https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R45442/2#:~:te...

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intended 2 days ago | parent [-]

I am talking about this EO https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/ensu...

> the Constitution also provides for subordinate officers to assist the President in his executive duties.

> Therefore, in order to improve the administration of the executive branch and to increase regulatory officials’ accountability to the American people, it shall be the policy of the executive branch to ensure Presidential supervision and control of the entire executive branch.

And of course: > President and the Attorney General, subject to the President’s supervision and control, shall provide authoritative interpretations of law for the executive branch. The President and the Attorney General’s opinions on questions of law are controlling on all employees in the conduct of their official duties.

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lazyasciiart 2 days ago | parent [-]

I am referring to your assertion that the president created organizations or can get rid of them, which is false.

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		Got it. I’m talking about this President’s EO and the implications it makes about independent agencies. Which are effectively his officers, so they are exercising his powers.
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