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stumble was the algo sweet spot. an endless feed of things that are slightly better than being alone with my thoughts, but no parasocial "community" with concomitant toxicity.

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ilrwbwrkhv 4 days ago | parent [-]

Yeah I think what killed the web was Google and Facebook.

The former brought massive amounts of spam and the latter brought real identies which broke the freedom of the internet.

Or in other words, both brought the Internet and made it real and connected with the real world. And I think that's not a good thing. The Internet was supposed to be a virtual space for exploration, learning, fun, and it should have had no bearing on our actual day-to-day living experience.

But now here we are where Google is a spam filled search engine which hardly returns any products and Facebook is a dystopian wasteland and its founder is walking around like a teenage pimp.

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herval 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I don't think real identities broke the internet... what really did it was the perfecting of the addiction formula, by multiple companies (from facebook to king). It turned it into an Opium den

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ilrwbwrkhv 4 days ago | parent [-]

I think companies would have had a much harder time in perfecting the addiction formula if things were anonymous.

	▲	SiempreViernes 4 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		We all still had defined identities back then, the nicks, even if we didn't use real names. And those are enough for targeting.
	▲	herval 4 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Tiktok is entirely anonymous (well other than you showing your face if you post). So is Reddit. So is Candy Crush...

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dingnuts 4 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>The Internet ... should have had no bearing on our actual day-to-day living experience.

Replace "The Internet" with previous communications technology and maybe that will demonstrate how completely unrealistic that sounds. Television should have had no bearing on our day-to-day existence? Phones? Radio?

I guess you can arbitrarily draw the line at the Internet, sort of like the Amish did with electricity. But it seems arbitrary to me.

The moral of every sci-fi story is that technology is morally neutral and it's how you use it that matters. Why would The Internet be different?

	▲	singleshot_ 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		BBSes had absolutely no bearing on my day to day existence. No one had a job working at Big BBS and there was not a constant drumbeat of hustle culture strugglebussing surrounding the idea of using a modem to post messages. This was the ideal final form of the internet and we lost it forever. Now, we have sludge.

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asdff 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I consider sites like facebook to be akin to diverting water from the Colorado river. At one point it looked like the nile delta from antiquity and today barely a trickle if that at some times reaches the sea with so much water diverted. The ecosystem diversity falls apart.