| ▲ | bjourne 6 months ago |
| > They hacked all of our major telco's and many of America's regulatory organizations including the treasury department. Please cite your sources. After decades of watching American propaganda, we know all too well that it is trivial to make up shit from thin air and have a large segment of the population eat it up. |
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| ▲ | pdabbadabba 6 months ago | parent | next [-] |
| I'm tempted to say: what's the point if you've preemptively disregarded it as made up "American propaganda." But here you go anyway: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Typhoon |
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| ▲ | bjourne 6 months ago | parent [-] | | Yes, what is the point if the cites you have are all based on speculation and vague allegations by US officials? Do you actually have credible evidence that a group affiliated with the Chinese government hacked American ISPs? If not, don't bother. | | |
| ▲ | stevenAthompson 6 months ago | parent | next [-] | | CISA does. Much of it has been made public. Google it yourself, if you're actually interested. It's fascinating. | | |
| ▲ | bjourne 6 months ago | parent [-] | | What makes you think I haven't googled it already? Yes, the US CISA agency claims it. But no evidence has been presented. | | |
| ▲ | herbst 6 months ago | parent [-] | | Even if there were some kind of evidence, the US doesn't actually have a track record on being honest with anything like that. |
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| ▲ | pdabbadabba 6 months ago | parent | prev [-] | | > the cites you have are all based on speculation and vague allegations by US officials Totally untrue. It was also confirmed by officials from affected companies as well as Cybersecurity monitoring companies. There is quite a bit more detail and substantiation -- even in the Wikipedia article -- than you are acknowledging. |
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| ▲ | ethbr1 6 months ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| https://archive.ph/20241007181947/https://www.wsj.com/politi... https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/30/us/politics/china-hack-tr... |
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| ▲ | jampekka 6 months ago | parent [-] | | NYT would of course never back erroneous allegations by US officials on geopolitical matters like these. | | |
| ▲ | ethbr1 6 months ago | parent [-] | | What satisfiable criteria would you like in a source? | | |
| ▲ | bjourne 6 months ago | parent [-] | | Read the sources carefully. It all boils down to "US officials says so". It's different from the Podesta hack as forensic evidence were published linking Russian hackers to the attack. | | |
| ▲ | ethbr1 6 months ago | parent [-] | | The Podesta "hack" was a spear phishing link, no? With the emails then published by Wikileaks? What forensic evidence was published? Afaicr, it was attributed on the basis of methods. Gmail didn't publicly disclose any internal logging. And the email chain of custody is unreliable, so post-leak analysis has the can't-spot-a-perfect-forgery problem. | | |
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| ▲ | Aunche 6 months ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I'm not sure about "all our major telco's, but there is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Aurora > On January 12, 2010, Google revealed on its weblog that it had been the victim of a cyber attack. The company said the attack occurred in mid-December and originated from China. Google stated that more than 20 other companies had been attacked; other sources have since cited that more than 34 organizations were targeted. |
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