| ▲ | 34679 10 hours ago |
| There's nothing preventing China from buying mass data from Facebook or one of the many data brokers. This is about censorship and the ability to control public narratives. |
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| ▲ | bl4kers 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| You're falsely equating mass data. If anyone can buy the data from brokers then it's effectively public and could be weaponized by anyone. If TikTok collects their own data and doesn't sell it, then it's not public and can be weaponized exclusively by the Chinese government. And that's separate even from algorithm manipulation, which is another liability that's difficult to catch & prove definitively. |
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| ▲ | mgraczyk 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Yes there is. Facebook has never done anything like this and never would, that's what is preventing it. |
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| ▲ | 34679 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | Facebook has never sold user data? LOL https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46618582 | | |
| ▲ | mgraczyk 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Do you think your link shows that Facebook sold user data? Did you notice that Facebook wasn't paid and that the users specifically consented? | |
| ▲ | senordevnyc 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | "We have to seriously challenge the claim by Facebook that they are not selling user data," commented Damian Collins MP, chair of the UK Parliament's Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee.
"They may not be letting people take it away by the bucket load, but they do reward companies with access to data that others are denied, if they place a high value on the business they do together. This is just another form of selling." Not defending what FB did in your example, but when you have to start redefining terms in order to make your argument, you're on shaky ground. | | |
| ▲ | 34679 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | My point is that as long as data is being collected and sold in the US, China has access to it. They don't need TikTok for that. The US government, on the other hand, desires to control all narratives widely disseminated among its citizens. They can do that with Facebook. They can do that with Twitter. They cannot do that with a foreign company. So they shut it down. | | |
| ▲ | senordevnyc 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | And my point is that it wasn’t being sold, it was made available to strategic partners, who don’t seem to have even accessed much of it. It’s a totally different situation than what you’re talking about. |
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