| ▲ | misiti3780 13 hours ago |
| Not sure why this is so complicated --- blame the DNC and party elites, not the population that voted for Trump. If the DNC was trying to win, they would have never let Biden run for re-election, and then they would have never let Harris become the candidate without a primary. The Democrats literally told the US population Trump was going to destroy democracy in America, and then created a situation that enabled him to win in a landslide. |
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| ▲ | scarface_74 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Supporting your argument: From a left leaning publication https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/01/12/opinion/opinion-renee... And from the WSJ (I don’t know how the paywall bypass works. I pay for Apple News and read the entire article). The WSJ is right leaning when it comes to business. But I find it to be fair and not Trump worshipper https://www.wsj.com/opinion/bidens-bitterness-came-back-to-b... When it all comes down to it. Biden was no better than Trump. They both are old folks who put their own desires above what is best for the country. |
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| ▲ | krapp 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The Democrats didn't lose because Harris didn't get a primary. Literally no one but Republicans who would never have voted for her to begin with cared about that. Democrats lost because they keep triangulating and trying to appeal to centrist Republicans who either don't exist, or would never vote for them regardless. If Harris had distinguished herself from Biden by taking a firm stance against the Palestinian genocide - which was the single issue much of her base cared about - she would have won. Also, Trump didn't win in a landslide. It was a close election, and Trump definitely won the popular vote, but the margins were still about 51% to 49%. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Democrats didn't lose because Harris didn't get a primary The point is Harris would have been replaced in a primary. Democrats needed a candidate who could call Biden out on his failures, namely, not taking inflation seriously (Manchin said so!) and completely flubbing it on the border. > If Harris had distinguished herself from Biden by taking a firm stance against the Palestinian genocide She would have lost worse in Pennsylvania and maybe picked up Michigan and had absolutely zero effect anywhere else because foreign policy wasn’t a material factor in this election. (It was a loud factor. But not in an electorally relevant way.) I get the impulse to do this. My pet war was Ukraine. But neither was actually voted on because Americans don’t tend to think about foreign policy unless we’re actually at (or about to go to) war ourselves. | |
| ▲ | dralley 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | >Democrats lost because they keep triangulating and trying to appeal to centrist Republicans who either don't exist, or would never vote for them regardless. If Harris had distinguished herself from Biden by taking a firm stance against the Palestinian genocide - which was the single issue much of her base cared about - she would have won. Everyone thinks that their one particular issue was the crucial one, but all the data shows that the issues that actually mattered were A) inflation and B) the border / immigration / crime / perception of disorder. The only two Dem Senators that underperformed Harris were Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. The rest of the downballot had been running hard centrist on the border for much longer and with less baggage, and guess what, they did better. | |
| ▲ | iugtmkbdfil834 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | << The Democrats didn't lose because Harris didn't get a primary. I can't tell if this is some weird cope, satire or honest to goodness opinion. << It was a close election, and Trump definitely won the popular vote, but the margins were still about 51% to 49%. Just like the previous sentence fragment. Narrow facts are true, but manage to completely miss the picture. | |
| ▲ | scarface_74 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You realize that some of those Trump supporters voted for a Black man with a Muslim sounding name - twice? Kamala didn’t lose in Miami of all places because of her stance on Palestine. Nor did she lose every swing state for that reason. |
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