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Retric 13 hours ago

That’s at all, there are only ~380 million native English speakers.

Of that 1/3 (of the global population) a significant percentage have extremely limited skills, though the threshold is above knowing a few random words.

adriancr 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Including people who speak English as a second language, estimates of the total number of Anglophones vary from 1.5 billion to 2 billion

wikipedia. You are a bit off...

As for native you have US+UK+Canada+Australia+NZ+Ireland. So more then your 380M.

Retric 13 hours ago | parent [-]

~47 million Americans aren’t native English speakers having immigrated from a non English speaking country.

switchbak 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Who cares if they're native English speakers or not, as long as they can converse in the language?

Retric 11 hours ago | parent [-]

shortrounddev2 who brought the topic up without knowing the numbers.

adriancr 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Source?

Retric 12 hours ago | parent [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_immigration_stat...

adriancr 12 hours ago | parent [-]

> aren’t native English speakers

Where does it state this?

Do you assume that all immigrants are non-native english speakers?

Retric 12 hours ago | parent [-]

By coming from different country their native language (IE what language they heard as infants) more closely resembles that country than America. Note I said 47 million and there are more than 47 million immigrants.

There are also some native born Americans to immigrants who also don’t have English as their first language and People born in China whose first language is English, but that’s ever smaller refinements on a specific estimate.

adriancr 12 hours ago | parent [-]

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Retric 12 hours ago | parent [-]

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adriancr 11 hours ago | parent [-]

You made this statement which is wrong:

> ~47 million Americans aren’t native English speakers having immigrated from a non English speaking country.

Your link says 46M total which includes native speakers. So it does not state how many non-native speakers. (not that it would matter as most would be proficient english speakers, just pointing out you're exagerating and your numbers are wrong)

Retric 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Link is showing slightly outdated data as is common on Wikipedia, but the breakdown by country is what’s important.

“About 47.8 million immigrants in 2023” https://usafacts.org/answers/how-many-immigrants-are-in-the-...

JumpCrisscross 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My family immigrated. We’re native English speakers from India.

Retric 11 hours ago | parent [-]

So immigration had zero impact on your family being a native English speaker. And again 47 < 47.8

adriancr 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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Retric 8 hours ago | parent [-]

The question of your native language is answered long before any of what you’re talking about here. A 20 year old isn’t time traveling to have different parents when they take an exam.

shortrounddev2 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If they are native English speakers, then how do they have extremely limited skills?

Retric 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I added clarification, but “that 1/3” refers to my prior mention of 1/3 as in 1/3 of the global population.

edoceo 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

American education.