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scarface_74 13 hours ago

The Democrats loss fair and square. They should have spoken up a lot sooner. Everyone on the inside knew that Biden was incompetent. If they had a real primary would Kamala ever have been the nominee?

The Democrats lost strongholds like Miami of all places. The dumbest thing they did was go against the tech industry who have always been their biggest supporters. Would Republicans go after Evangelical Christians or the NRA?

They gave people no reason to support them.

CryptoBanker 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

To say that Miami was a democratic stronghold is not really accurate. They've leaned Democrat recently, but the margins haven't been that high, and they've been decreasing for a number of elections now.

ruthmarx 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> The Democrats loss fair and square.

Yes, because of how ignorant much of the population is, correlating lower grocery prices with whoever was in office at the time.

> They gave people no reason to support them.

Given how bad the alternative was they were the only rational choice.

csomar an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> Yes, because of how ignorant much of the population is, correlating lower grocery prices with whoever was in office at the time.

Get off your high horse. If you lose the election, you are the ignorant. The democrats lost because they over-estimated their hand and under-estimated the intelligence of the general populace.

The democrats were in a position of power. The only thing you need to do is to not screw up.

seanmcdirmid an hour ago | parent [-]

They lost because 49.9% of voters believed inflation would be decreased by tariffs and all the money FEMA spent on North Carolina was a lie. Among other things, this was very much a “we have a different truth to offer” election.

scarface_74 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So that was there whole platform - “we aren’t Trump”?

Do you think the population got more ignorant in 4 years? This is all on the DNC and Biden. Biden should have either voluntarily not run or stronger Democrats should have had a primary and crucified him.

The DNC lied to the American public for years. They knew that Biden wasn’t all there. They basically tried to do a “Weekend with Bernie” on them.

Not to mention that strategically for the first time in modern history they had the new industry titans in their back pocket - BigTech - and threw them under the bus.

The American population doesn’t care about going after BigTech like HN does.

ruthmarx 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> So that was there whole platform - “we aren’t Trump”?

No, but frankly if it was that should have been enough.

> Do you think the population got more ignorant in 4 years?

Yes, obviously. Or at least more ignorant people decided to vote this time.

iugtmkbdfil834 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I long maintained that there should be a minimum level of 'something' required to vote. It used to be land, but anything that effectively makes one have a stake in the country would do. If possible, would you accept a restriction on the right to vote based on such a criterion?

scarface_74 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And this is why Democrats lose. They are completely out of touch with what the mainstream wants.

Any other Democrat could have distanced themselves from Biden. But his own VP couldn’t.

ruthmarx 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> And this is why Democrats lose.

Democrats lose due to significant ignorance in the population and successful propaganda by hostile entities. It's not an accident that the reddest states at the least educated and least literate. If you doubt that I'm happy to support the claim, but I think we both know it's true.

> They are completely out of touch with what the mainstream wants.

Democrats are the only party actually offering to give the majority what they want, but due to ignorance and propaganda the majority have become emotionally hostile to the means necessary to accomplish implementing what they want.

Despite Trump's promises that gullible desperate people fell for, his policies are likely to make things much harder for hid voters and not only not give them what they want, but give them what they explicitly don't want. Well, they'll still get bigoted policies, at least.

> Any other Democrat could have distanced themselves from Biden. But his own VP couldn’t.

There should have been no reason to. Trump is a rapist felon who literally advocated for injecting leach as a cure to a pandemic. That people voted for him at all shows just how bad things are.

Democracy can't function with such a gullible population. At the least I have a front row ticket to the fall of a modern empire though. That's something.

iugtmkbdfil834 4 hours ago | parent [-]

<< Democrats are the only party actually offering to give the majority what they want << Democracy can't function with such a gullible population.

I am trying to be charitable in my interpretation, but you are not making it easy. One could easily argue that given that Trump won, majority got what they want already. Please tell me that you understand what I am telling you now. I did manage to hear some people drawing appropriate conclusions from this cycle, but I am not certain you did.

<< Trump is a rapist felon who literally advocated for injecting leach as a cure to a pandemic.

Yeah.. a felony in this case being the equivalent of a parking ticket in business; not to mention national level politics. It is hard for me understand why people have a hard time grasping that and/or why this was not a useful label for this election cycle. Hell, the moves taken ( including mug shot ) did the exact opposite of the desired effect.

<< At the least I have a front row ticket to the fall of a modern empire though. That's something.

Enjoy the ride man. It is gonna get wild.