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therealdrag0 a year ago

Why just fire them? As you showed they can “just quit” if they don’t want to play ball, and some people want to have the opportunity to play ball.

jopsen a year ago | parent | next [-]

Also by forcing managers to drag employees through a pip process, you: (a) reduce risk of wrongful termination suits. (b) increase likelihood that an abusive manager is discovered.

I'm sure lots bad managers get away with bad stuff, even when a pip process is in place.

But every bit of documentation produced by a pip could certainly backfire on a bad manager.

Again obviously, not all bad managers will be stopped, not will all bad employees :)

bsder a year ago | parent | prev [-]

> Why just fire them?

Legal ass covering--especially if the employee is a minority.

therealdrag0 a year ago | parent [-]

Isn’t that why you shouldn’t just fire them?

bsder a year ago | parent [-]

No, you can be on the receiving end of a lawsuit alleging discriminatory behavior without documentation to the contrary.

I'd like to be snide about this, but the problem is that there really are an amazing amount of shitty companies out there and forcing at least some documentation is likely a good thing, in general.