From reading the comments, people must work at places who use a lot of PIPs. It is an actual documented process at my large employer but I know if anyone got put on one then they would freak out. Probably go nuclear rather than improve. Managers are afraid to put people on them.

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ambicapter 7 months ago | parent | prev [-]

Sounds like a very emotionally-stable place to work lol.

	▲	firesteelrain 7 months ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I don’t think it’s good for mental health for a manager or employee to be vascillating between PIPs and not PIP. We still measure performance and do coaching. We just don’t put people under threat of firing which is what these PIPs aim to do.
	▲	Spivak 7 months ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		At the systems level it seems like a stable outcome. Workers don't want to be put on PIPs so if they react in a manner totally opposite what the manager wants and treat them as being fired then they cease to be effective. Managers now have to address performance problems without them or just fire them. The kind of professional stoicism being advocated for actually makes you easy to mistreat. I feel so bad for my Gen X coworkers who seem to be conditioned that this is the only way to be and seem to have no concept of when they deserve better.