“ If OpenAI is found to be in violation, he can then order permanent destruction of the models and OpenAI would have to start over from scratch in a manner that doesn't violate the law.”

That is exactly why I suggested companies train some models on public domain and licensed data. That risk disappears or is very minimal. They could also be used for code and synthetic data generation without legal issues on the outputs.

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jsheard 7 months ago | parent | next [-]

That's what Adobe and Getty Images are doing with their image generation models, both are exclusively using their own licensed stock image libraries so they (and their users) are on pretty safe ground.

	▲	nickpsecurity 7 months ago \| parent [-]
		That’s good. I hope more do. This list has those doing it under the Fairly Trained banner: https://www.fairlytrained.org/certified-models

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3pt14159 7 months ago | parent | prev [-]

The problem is that you don't get the same quality of data if you go about it that way. I love ChatGPT and I understand that we're figuring out this new media landscape but I really hope it doesn't turn out to neuter the models. The models are really well done.

	▲	nickpsecurity 7 months ago \| parent \| next [-]
		If I steal money, I can get way more done than I do now by earning it legally. Yet, you won’t see me regularly dismissing legitimate jobs by posting comparisons to what my numbers would look like if stealing I.P.. We must start with moral and legal behavior. Within that, we look at what opportunities we have. Then, we pick the best ones. Those we can’t have are a side effect of the tradeoffs we’ve made (or tolerated) in our system.
	▲	tremon 7 months ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		That is OpenAI's problem, not their victims'.