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cess11 10 months ago

I think you'll find that most people aren't comfortable with this in practice. They'd like e.g. the state to be able to keep secrets, such as personal information regarding citizens and the stuff foreign spies would like to copy.

jMyles 10 months ago | parent [-]

Obviously we're all impacted in these perceptions by our bubbles, but it would surprise me at this particular moment in the history of US politics to find that most people favor the existence of the state at all, let alone its ability to keep secret personal information regarding citizens.

goatlover 10 months ago | parent | next [-]

Most people aren't anarchists, and think the state is necessary for complex societies to function.

jMyles 10 months ago | parent [-]

My sense is that the constituency of people who prefer deprecation of the US state is much larger than just anarchists.

warkdarrior 10 months ago | parent | next [-]

Would this deprecation of the state include disbanding the police and the armed forces? I'm guessing the people who are for the deprecation of the state would answer quite differently if the question specified details of government functions.

jMyles 10 months ago | parent [-]

...I mean, police are deeply unpopular in the American political consciousness, and have been since prior to their rebrand from "slave patrols" in the 19th century. Surely you recall that, only four years ago, millions of people took to the streets calling for a completion to the unfinished business of abolition?

Obviously the armed forces are much less despised than the police. But given that private gun ownership is at an all-time high (with woman and people of color - historically marginalized groups with regard to arms equality - making up the lion's share of the recent increase), I'm not sure that people are feeling particularly vulnerable to invasion either.

Is the state really that popular in your circle? How do people express their esteem? Am I just missing it?

noitpmeder 10 months ago | parent | prev [-]

Sound like you exist in some very insulated bubbles.

cess11 10 months ago | parent | prev [-]

Really? Are Food Not Bombs and the IWW that popular we're you live?