| ▲ | OutOfHere 8 hours ago |
| Employment is at-will. It's better to just fire without the PIP drama. As it is, a PIP does not provide legal cover if the employee writes back, effectively rejecting it. |
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| ▲ | outside1234 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Employment is at-will but you can’t fire someone for non-work reasons. The PIP is there to collect the data that they are firing someone for work reasons. |
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| ▲ | 3eb7988a1663 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Maybe I need my understanding corrected. I thought the point of at-will was that you very much could fire someone for nearly reason (you support the Cubs, pack up your desk!). You cannot fire someone for protected classes (gender, race, etc), but basically everything else is fair game. | |
| ▲ | OutOfHere 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Who said anything about firing for non-work reasons. One can be fired immediately for work reasons without a PIP. Note that the PIP alone does not suffice as valid supporting data if the employee contests it. It helps for there to be more data than it. |
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| ▲ | KerrAvon 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| IANAL, but I don’t think this is correct |
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| ▲ | Aloha 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Employment in most of the US is at will by default - with the exception of Montana basically. | | |
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