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sigzero 16 hours ago

The vast majority of people would not buy those.

tim333 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It depends on the incentives. In Japan the top selling car is the Honda N-Box https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_N-Box which is on the small light and slow side.

The US has dumb mileage policies to get everyone to drive huge trucks, and pretty much bans things like the N-Box.

In Japan you get a parking exemption with cars like the N-Box and it seems quite useable - top speed 87 mph. Review https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/honda-n-box-slash-review-...

I wouldn't mind them bringing in something like that - I'm in the UK where they don't have N-Boxes either but it would do the job and I mostly get around by e-bike these days so I prefer others to drive small light cars.

tmnvix 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Depends entirely on price.

rootusrootus 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I hear this a lot and I am quite skeptical. Price-sensitive buyers do not buy new cars, they buy used ones. What is available on the used market is directly controlled by what the minority of people who buy new cars put their priorities on.

fordfordford 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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_carbyau_ 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I see it as less a masculinity problem and more a "common view of physics" problem. IE it's less about masculinity and more about the perception of "winning a crash".

Cars can pass all the safety standards they like but the common view is a multi-ton ladder chassis truck keeps the kids (and themselves, their loved ones, friends...) safer than the small city car (containing others). So stupidly sized trucks are desirable...

The only way out I think is regulation. Otherwise the "outsizing" will continue.

rootusrootus 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's quite the hot take, more worthy of Reddit than HN.

Pickups are super useful. Especially if you live in a place that does not have narrow roads, and if you have a family to tote around. It's in many ways the modern equivalent to the luxury barges of the 70s.

Plus, modern trucks are frequently as efficient as a mid size sedan from 10-15 years ago, which is pretty wild. Some of them, like my Lightning, are more efficient than pretty much any car which uses gasoline.

Lastly, 80K is a lot even for a truck. The vast majority are more like 40-50K. 80K is a top trim, brand new, no discounts price.

bdangubic 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

except there aren’t any affordable smaller cars anymore…