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Aloisius 8 hours ago

I gave example for a $10 million line of credit. The assets required for that it is $50 million.

For goodness sake, the interbank rate right now is 4.8%. No one is getting close to that no matter how much they are worth.

Someone like Mark Zuckerberg does not need this for anything but short-term cash - where you don't want to, or can't do to trading rules, liquidate assets immediately or all at once. Instead you get a loan, sell assets slowly to cover it and repay it as quickly as you can.

The idea that someone in their 40s is living off debt as a capital gains tax avoidance strategy frankly sounds like someone has mistaken a financial services advertisement for a sound strategy.

no_wizard 7 hours ago | parent [-]

What you describe in your last paragraph and what I’m describing are actually very very different things.

These types of loans are absolutely used as part of tax avoidance strategies employed by net worth individuals of a certain asset class. It is unlikely anyone on HN is doing this successfully if at all. As I repeatedly indicated it’s used successfully by people in a certain asset class, and it’s part of a broader strategy regarding how wealth is managed for the individuals that are able to take advantage of this.

I also linked several articles on how these things work, here’s another that talks about the tax loophole specifically: https://equitablegrowth.org/closing-the-billionaire-borrowin...

I did not say it’s the only way people live off their wealth though. That is something I never stated or indicated

Now as far as the rates go I wish I could find the article that that talks about it from earlier this year, but yeah if you really are super high net worth you aren’t paying 7%, but even if we take that off the table for the sake of argument, if you expect to net more than interest paid by a significant enough margin the loans still make sense, and for the class of folks I’m talking about they will almost always be able to outpace the rate by a significant margin