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david-gpu 7 months ago

That is why international agreements like the Montreal Protocol are so important.

revscat 7 months ago | parent [-]

That was 40 years ago. In the interim capitalism has won and democracy is failing. Agreements like Montreal will never happen again, at least not in our lifetimes.

Look no further than the failure of the Paris Agreement and the ascent of authoritarianism worldwide. No one cares about environmental agreements, certainly not those in the rarified airs of billionaires, oligarchs, and other captains 9f industry.

david-gpu 7 months ago | parent [-]

> Agreements like Montreal will never happen again

They happen all the time. Just look at how the European Union operates on a day-to-day basis.

This and the Montreal Protocol wasn't achieved with a self-defeating attitude, though.

antisthenes 7 months ago | parent | next [-]

Montreal Protocol is Global. EU Agreements are EU-Only, and Europe is only a small part of the World, comparatively, and almost irrelevant manufacturing wise, compared to China/India/SE Asia/USA combined.

If we're talking about Global climate or pollution impact, the EU alone agreeing won't cut it.

maeil 7 months ago | parent | prev [-]

> This and the Montreal Protocol wasn't achieved with a self-defeating attitude, though.

What's clear is that the attitudes of those of us in favour of such measures has only achieved the opposite is the last decade, as the user you're replying to has rightfully pointed out. Optimism has gotten us nowhere.