| ▲ | fsh 8 hours ago |
| France has 12% of Europe's population, and its primary energy is 45% from fossil fuels and 40% from nuclear power. The effect on Europe as a whole is therefore pretty small. |
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| ▲ | insane_dreamer 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| You're not counting the energy outflows from France to neighboring countries. Also, France gets 70% of its energy from nuclear, not 40%. |
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| ▲ | moooo99 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Also, France gets 70% of its energy from nuclear, not 40%. No, it gets 70% of its electricity from nuclear. | | |
| ▲ | RandomThoughts3 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Mixing electricity with transport and heating in a single metric is such a dishonest argument you have to be as intellectually bankrupt as an anti-nuclear ecologist to make it. |
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| ▲ | thrance 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think you included transportation in your stats: planes, cars, trucks and boats. The electrical mix in France includes only 8% from fossil fuels, of which 7% come from natural gas. The rest is mostly nuclear, hydroelectric, wind and solar. In that order. France also regularly sells its surplus to neighboring countries. |
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| ▲ | masklinn 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > France also regularly sells its surplus to neighboring countries. And in order to do that it has pretty massive lines to neighbours meaning it also acts as an exchange platform (for a profit) e.g. if there are strong winds it can buy electricity from an oversupplied german grid and sell it to italy. https://app.electricitymaps.com/map/24h provides live views of the european electricity grids, and France is the only country which is consistently green (and often dark green aka under 50gCO2eq/kWh) without being blessed with enough hydro for most or all of its requirements (as Iceland and Norway are). | | |
| ▲ | elihu 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Interesting to see they have data for Russia now. I think that's new. |
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| ▲ | fsh 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Most countries use way more primary energy for heating and transportation than for electricity generation. It would be disingenuous not to include this. | | |
| ▲ | RandomThoughts3 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | It’s fairly disingenuous to mix both actually when they don’t mingle. Especially when you consider that both heating and transportation are going in the direction of using more electricity which is actually favorable to the French choice. |
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| ▲ | realusername 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| France is simultaneously one of the most populated countries in the EU and the of the top transitioned countries, it does make a difference |
