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Yeah.

Nothing will ever be as funny as Holmes' deep voice, though. The fact that she conned so many people is really one of the greatest modern examples of just how effing stupid most people are, especially those with a fair bit of power and money.

Carreyrou's book and pod are truly excellent.

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zusammen 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I hated that voice. At first, I told myself it wasn’t right to hate someone’s voice so much because I assumed it had been something she couldn’t control, and in fact it made her slightly more impressive to me that she had gotten anywhere with such an uncharismatic voice. Then I found out that, no, she made it up. All fake.

I have a cousin with two special needs children. When I was first told that people in Silicon Valley fake neurological disabilities for clout, I didn’t believe it. I’ve worked in finance in the 1980s and ‘90s and I’ve seen some low behavior, but the fake speech issues of Holmes and the fake autism of Bankman-Fried are the sorts of things that even investment bankers would call unethical.

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shepherdjerred 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Did Holmes fake speech issues? I thought her voice was intentionally changes so that she sounded more assertive/less feminine

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MrMcCall 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I understand. Sadly, the level of despicable ethics goes far deeper than that, my friend.

But I never hate, because hate is a poison to one's own soul, and must always be avoided. I do, however, feel a hot righteous anger at those that manipulate others for personal gain, especially when it's combined with callous disregard for their victims' well-being.

I wish more people were like you, who have found reasons to grow their compassion. Peace be with you, and your cousin's family.

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scns 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Hassen macht hässllich ie hate makes you ugly.

	▲	MrMcCall 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes, absolutely, but it is every person's choice to become, should they (and their culture) wish. It also damages our perceptual clarity. When Jesus said to "Love your enemies", there is a very pragmatic aspect to this beyond just trying to show them a better way. We can only see a person clearly if we love them; otherwise, we will see them through the lens of our prejudices, enmities, greed, ... whatever. Selfless love also does not mean letting the Nazis of the world steamroll you and then proceed to dominate the next underpriviledged group. No, compassion demands that we protect the innocent, including ourselves. First, however, we must self-evolve ourselves back towards innocence by embracing universal -- but carefully watchful -- compassion. It's a tricky business, being human :-) But, wow, the wonders!