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rahkiin 9 hours ago

PhD candidates are paid salary in the Netherlands. Less of course than the senior trial researchers at pharma. I also would not assume there is no compensation for subjects as thats part of the medical-ethical process and not just ‘it helps the subject so no money’.

vasco 8 hours ago | parent [-]

The €30k to €35k per year they make in this context approximates to free. Any normal company has to pay much more than that for less. A non-phd software engineer will get paid much more to change button colors for example. So that can't be the reason they are expensive and a PhD candidate is doing many other things than just helping to run trials.

JPLeRouzic 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Any normal company has to pay much more than that for less

In most EU countries, the employee receives much less than what they cost the employer. In France, if an employee gets 30K euros, the employer has to provision ~45K Euros.

vasco 7 hours ago | parent [-]

What's your point? I've lived in 3 different european countries, I'm familiar with fully loaded costs, I don't see how social security changes anything. By paying more for less I mean PhDs candidates are very cheap labor for what they bring to the table.

StefanBatory an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Also as much as it pains to say, 30-35k Euro is high salary there. :(