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GloomyBoots 11 hours ago

> It's because we've reached a point where the average conservative rhetoric is toxic, harmful and generally flat out incorrect.

Yes, but not particularly.

> Political lines are now about acknowledging facts or not

Political lines are about which facts you accept. On many of the social issues of today, which are far more contentious than economic ones, liberal "facts" are often two lies and a half-truth wearing a trench coat. What liberals[1] want is a monopoly over which facts are on the table, and for all discussion to take place within that framing. And accusations of toxicity, harm, disinformation, and bigotry, are employed as rhetorical tools to preserve that monopoly.

[1]: By "liberals" here I don't mean average liberal voters, but politicians, pundits, influencers, and the class of affluent, politically-engaged people who tend to set the tone generally.

ruthmarx 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> Yes, but not particularly.

Not particularly what?

> Political lines are about which facts you accept.

Right, one side outright makes up lies and denies things.

> liberal "facts" are often two lies and a half-truth wearing a trench coat.

I see your footnote, it's still nonsense. Conservatives outright lie, Trump an JD outright admitted to making up the story about Haitians eating pets which did incredible harm to a community, and conservatives lapped it up and asked for seconds instead of, you know, holding them accountable.