▲ | PrismCrystal 18 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
I wonder if that means that lower sex drive does not necessarily mean lower testosterone? This is not a purely theoretical question. I spend half the year traveling the world in ways that let me talk a lot with local people, and I am astounded by the number of young men in developing countries who venerate Andrew Tate and are frantic about physical access to women. As a somewhat older man, I can’t share their desperation and I wish I could communicate to them “Just wank it and then get back to doing something productive with your time”, yet I fear being accused of being a “low-T man”, which in that social-media world is an object of contempt. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | hombre_fatal 18 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lack of access to sex (aka women aren't interested) tends to be an identity level failure to men, not just a temporarily feeling of horniness that goes away after a wank. Else the problem would be solved half a dozen times a day for these young men. Though, like the PUA forums of the early 2000s, I don't think Andrew Tate is going to be much help. But that's a separate issue. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | TaylorAlexander 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Certainly the ire of Andrew Tate fans should be thoroughly ignored. You can have whatever sex drive you want, and their contempt is childish and misguided. If you did want to try experiencing a higher sex drive, try edging daily for a week without getting off and see how you feel on day 7. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | SirMaster 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
I’ve never had any sex drive my entire life and my T levels test normally. So I would say one doesn’t necessarily imply the other. Pretty sure it’s more complicated. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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▲ | julianeon 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
But older men are "low-T" relative to younger men. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | tayo42 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
> and I am astounded by the number of young men in developing countries who venerate Andrew Tate and are frantic about physical access to women. As a somewhat older man, Kind of curious which countries? I noticed this some countries where women rights seem restricted or theyre lower class, and religious. Indonesia and Morocco. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
▲ | yyuugg 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
"If A (higher T) then not B (higher sex drive)" does not imply "If B then not A". But agree, these men have built a culture where they believe that's true. I think that they'd be better served by not obsessing so hard. Sex will happen, and it's easiest to get when you are chill, safe, approachable. And yet, these dudes feel the need to do toxic shit to themselves and others. It's a tragedy. |