Remix.run Logo
swed420 3 hours ago

The meat and potatoes is: does a person agree or disagree that capitalism is on a globally unsustainable path with no real vision for the future. Some people are willing to engage in this discussion, while others are not.

Suggesting elitist centrism as a solution is a joke.

Edit for clarification:

> In that respect X does a lot better than heavily polarised venues like BS ('left') or Gab ('right').

That's the context of our conversation's beginning. From that, you made it sound like it was a traditional "US"/modern EU style narrow window neoliberal debate between "liberals" and "conservatives". What I'm saying is this is narrow because both of those groups take capitalism as some fundamental law of nature that is to never be questioned, and if it is questioned, labeled as "tankie" and put in containment. The issue of to-capitalism or not-to-capitalism is a far broader one than what these normie platforms typically concern themselves with. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds. We could preempt the bickering about Cheetos and rotating villains if real solutions were offered from the start.

Bluesky actually has instances of questioning this fundamental assumption.

hagbard_c 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Now you're falling in the same trap you earlier accused me of having been caught in: I am not talking about capitalism or 'elitist centrism' here and consider this focus on capitalism vs. some form of socialism to be a rather narrow view of the way the world can be organised. I am talking about how on a platform like BS which currently mostly hosts those on the 'left' side of the 'spectrum' (line, square, cube, hypercube - take your pick of the number of dimensions you want to measure a person's political affiliation in) but which may in some potential future in which it survives the current phase (which to me is doubtful but leave that aside) and starts attracting people on the 'other' side of the 'spectrum' can foster communications across ideological lines given that the platform offers a feature - curated blocklists - which enables users to be shielded from those who go against some desired narrative. It will be those clustered around the centre who are most likely to engage in real debate with people on the 'other' side while those further away from the centre are far more likely to only venture across the line to verbally shoot down their opponents in some way - by calling them names, by trolling them, etc.