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sabbaticaldev 7 hours ago

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baud147258 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

while I'm not a big fan of US hegemony, I think it is preferable to most (all?) other contenders to the title of global hegemon. And I don't think a multi-polar world is any better, it'd just lead to more global instability.

LAC-Tech 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

All North Korea and China have to do is convince the people of South Korea and Taiwan of the enormous benefits of being annexed. If they're unable to pull off even that, then they only have themselves to blame.

NoOn3 4 hours ago | parent [-]

They can't really do it all their efforts will be blocked and censored. And "western capitalist" propaganda is no different from the other side.

bigstrat2003 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You realize that many Americans don't want our country meddling in the affairs of others, right? We are powerless to stop it.

int_19h 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Many Americans pre-WW2 didn't want their country to get involved, either. At the end of the day, it was dragged into that war anyway. Perfect isolationism is not sustainable; you have to be smart about picking your battles, yes, but if you keep running away from them on foreign ground, you will eventually have to fight them on your own.

inopinatus 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Russia and China are directly meddling in US domestic matters. The best defense is a good offense.

There are no Hermit Kingdoms.

IncreasePosts 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ehh...many people love to say things like "America shouldn't be the world police", but then when something bad happens in the world, it becomes "Why aren't we doing anything??? We're complicit!"

bigstrat2003 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would say those are two separate groups of people. At the very least, I personally do not say the latter.

IncreasePosts 6 hours ago | parent [-]

I think the biggest recent example is the Russian war in Ukraine. Usually it is liberal-types arguing against American forays into the business of other countries, but they are the same group demanding more money and weapons be sent to Ukraine.

roenxi 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes and no; the warmongers put a lot of money into persuading people who neither know nor care much about what is happening to support policies they don't take much of an interest in. We saw something similar in the 2000s where the right-wing types were very supportive of wars that in hindsight made them really angry at the Republican leadership for lying/facilitating them into several disastrous conflicts. I expect we'll see something for the left in a few years assuming we don't see a full WWIII escalation (or maybe even if we do). At some point the lack of any possible upside from or reason for US involvement in eastern Europe will be decisive.

The pro-war types don't have the numbers - US elections follow a consistent though imperfect principle that whoever is advocating for peace wins the election. They rely mainly on short term plays leveraging hysteria.

shkkmo 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When something bad happens, we were usually already involved in some way or other, often by funding or arming one of the sides.

LAC-Tech 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the US have done an admirable job at being world police in the Asia Pacific.

Middle East and Europe post-USSR the track record is much worse.

sabbaticaldev 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

that happens exactly because the US is the world police to its own benefit, not for the greater good which some US americans are still deluded

tharmas 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Agreed.

But this why the Elites are meddling: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nr85irW3g0