> Developers want to use PaaS and also AWS or Azure so they can put it on their resume for the future.

I think this is a little disingenuous. Developers want to use them because they already know them. The services composing them are also often well documented by the provider.

I say all of that as someone trying to move a company away from aws, and over to our own hardware.

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PittleyDunkin 7 months ago | parent [-]

I want to use them because I'm not paying for it and managing your own hardware is a pain in the ass I'd rather avoid when I could just code instead. Which is not to say that using your own hardware isn't smart, but it is definitely miserable.

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regularfry 7 months ago | parent | next [-]

In my experience you swap managing your own hardware for managing intensely obtuse service configurations, pretty much 1:1. That might be preferable but I see a lot of folks approach it like the tradeoff doesn't exist.

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xorcist 7 months ago | parent | prev [-]

But you don't "manage your own hardware" if you are renting VMs, which was the question here.

Also managing a cloud infrastructure is a lot more complex than running Debian and Ansible on a VM.

	▲	PittleyDunkin 7 months ago \| parent [-]
		Sorry, I think I must have miscommunicated. I was communicating why I was arguing for using the cloud.