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echelon 13 hours ago

I don't see how America will smoothly transition to EVs. It feels like we'll live in an ICE/EV dichotomy for a long time. EVs work great for a lot of people, but not everyone with an ICE vehicle wants an EV. Given the current status quo, some of them will never want an EV.

A significant number of homes only have street parking available, thus no place to plug in. Not having access to home charging makes EV ownership a burden.

A lot of people live in massive multi-family dwellings, where charging infra is difficult or impossible to provide for all residents. If every resident switches to an EV, that's either a lot of load or everyone is left fighting over a limited number of charging stations.

Up north, EV range drops 30-50% during the winter. Maybe that's not a problem if you don't drive much, but most EVs already have shorter ranges than gas.

It seems incredibly impractical to have to schedule your life around EV shortcomings.

m463 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I used to think the same thing. When EVs first became popular, finding public fast charging was a joke. I remember there was evgo, blink and chargepoint. Chargepoint was basically l2 only. blink was l2 and l3, but they were ALWAYS out of order. And evgo was reliable L3 + L2, but they were expensive and would have max 2 stalls of L3.

Then I tried tesla, who really planned for the long term. Many charging locations. Many charging stalls. All of them extremely high power. Their cars had much better range than the competition (at the time). All of that made charging a tesla predictable and dependable. (In stark contrast to the rest)

infotainment 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fundamentally the issue is one of battery tech. If you can build some kind of magical super-battery that can charge quickly and has 900 miles of rage, as Toyota claims to be doing, then all of those issues magically disappear.

That said, the BEST solution to commuting is being able to walk to your workplace, but unfortunately with America's terrible zoning policies everything will likely remain super far apart and unusable without a car forevermore.

abdullahkhalids 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Economics teaches us that the cost of something is often its opportunity cost.

The opportunity cost of a world that refuses to stop emitting greenhouse gases because its "impractical to schedule your life around it" gets to pay the costs of climate disaster, food shortages and such. That cost is much higher, but in the future so (perhaps irrationally) time-discounted to appear lower currently.