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misswaterfairy 12 hours ago

I hate "cloud shit" as well, though specifically that there's a vendor-specific 'app', or terminology, or both, for everything that we've had standard terms for, for decades.

I just want a damn network, a couple of virtual machines, and a database. Why does each <cloud provider> have to create different fancy wrappers over everything, that not even their own sales consultants, and even engineers, understand?(1)

What I do like about Docker and Kubernetes is that shifting from one cloud provider to another, or even back to on-premises (I'm waiting for the day our organisation says "<cloud-provider> is too damn expensive; those damn management consultants lied to us!!!!") is a lot easier than re-building <cloud provider>'s bespoke shit in <another cloud provider>'s bespoke shit, or back on-premises with real tech (the right option in my opinion for anyone less than a (truly) global presence).

I do like the feel of, and being able to touch bare metal, though the 180-proof-ether-based container stuff is nice for quick, flexible, and (sometimes) dirty. Especially for experimenting when the Directors for War and Finance (the same person) say "We don't have the budget!! We're not buying another server/more RAM/another disk/newer CPUs! Get fucked!".

The other thing about Docker specifically I like is I can 'shop' around for boilerplate templates that I can then customise without having to screw around manually building/installing them from scratch. And if I fuck it up, I just delete the container and spin up another one from the image.

(1) The answer is 'vendor lock-in', kids.

(I apologise, I've had a looooooong day today.......)

yungporko 10 hours ago | parent [-]

agreed, cloud shit can fuck off. they market themselves as the solution to problems you will never have so that you build your shit on their land and they can charge you rent, and most people eat it up and think they're doing them a favour.