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dyauspitr 2 days ago

So stupid. I realize artists are panicking but this angle just makes them look like Luddite villains.

willio58 a day ago | parent | next [-]

I highly recommend reading about luddites! This Smithsonian article covers the topic well: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-the-luddites-rea...

Basically luddites were never the bad ones, they were protestors against abusive working conditions. They did sabotage the owners of the mills that paid them so poorly, sometimes by destroying machinery, but it was really an underground labor movement that’s super cool to learn about.

CamperBob2 a day ago | parent [-]

No, there was nothing "super cool" about the Luddites. Stop trying to rehabilitate these thugs. Failing that, do it someplace other than a site called "Hacker News."

weweersdfsd a day ago | parent | next [-]

There's nothing wrong with resisting bad working conditions, unfair pay, or getting replaced by a machine without adequate social safety nets in place.

If businesses decide to replace workers with AI, then it's also their collective responsibility to pay for their retraining, or if that isn't possible their social security.

HPsquared a day ago | parent [-]

Surely the morality depends on how they go about their protest.

sensanaty a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Luddite "thugs" were the ones that were getting murdered by the people they were protesting against, a protest which happened because they were about to be replaced while already working in extremely dangerous conditions with terrible compensation.

It's telling that the AI sycophants side with the group that was actually murdering people, however.

CamperBob2 a day ago | parent [-]

a protest which happened because they were about to be replaced while already working in extremely dangerous conditions with terrible compensation.

Gee. Being "replaced" in a job like that sounds like a good career move to me.

The system that prevailed up to that point didn't give them many options, of course... but neither would their response to it. Sabotage doesn't bring progress, no matter who told you that it did, or how much you want to believe it.

yyuugg a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Luddites were highly educated, skilled workers whose work was being replaced by machines. They just wanted to operate the machines and share in the increased productivity.

There's absolutely no parallels here, to AI. A machine that is taking work from highly skilled labor ohhhh wait

CamperBob2 a day ago | parent | next [-]

If a machine can take your work, perhaps you weren't as "highly skilled" as you thought you were.

dyauspitr 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Sounds like your idea of a machine is a little outdated.

CamperBob2 an hour ago | parent [-]

Or your idea of a human being.

We're primates that make and use tools. AI is a tool, so we'll make it and use it. What we won't do is compete with it. We have better things to do.

yyuugg 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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pineaux a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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whamlastxmas 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Part of the hacker ethos is being counter to mainstream and challenging authority. Luddites fit in with that perfectly.

CamperBob2 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Taking out your frustrations on the hardware isn't part of any hacker ethos I'm familiar with. I guess times have changed.

atoav a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Or like cool activists that made a stupid-but-rich corp accept them despite their obvious activist goals — who knows.

You assume they changed their mind, there is no data point for that as of now.