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miffy900 7 months ago

Umm, I guess technically it is? We've known about Windows 10 EOL date for a long time now, since it was first released in 2015.

Say what you will about Microsoft, but they have consistently supported Windows for a MINIMUM of 10 years since Windows XP (2001). That's absolutely a solid record when you compare it to the computing half-life of support that other tech companies usually give. Look at Samsung, or even Google. Hell even Apple maxes out at 7.5 years for it's longest supported device.

jazzyjackson 7 months ago | parent | next [-]

I don't recall EOL being acknowledged until quite recently, a quick search brings me to a "confirmation" last year [0]. Not to mention the 2015 evangelism slip up that errantly put on record that Windows 10 would be "the last version of Windows" [1]

[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2023/04/30/microsof...

[1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2015/05/08/window...

miffy900 7 months ago | parent [-]

They acknowledged the exact date in 2022 just before Windows 11 was released: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows...

But even then, what point are you even trying to make? Windows 10, like previous releases before it, when its support end, will mean it was supported for a solid 10 years. I mean, that's a lifetime in tech; 2015 was the iPhone 6s.

washadjeffmad 7 months ago | parent | next [-]

Why do I recall Windows 10 being referred to as "the last version of Windows" because it was supposed to be capable of being supported indefinitely as a rolling release distro?

And I'm nitpicking, but each version of Windows 10 was its own release with a lifecycle of 1-2 years, like Ubuntu. We don't say that Arch has been supported for a solid 22 years just because it's been able to be seamlessly upgraded for that long.

Also, if most major OS and device vendors provide 7-10 years of security updates, and many of them did that before, is it really that much of a "lifetime" to anyone but the outliers?

hulitu 7 months ago | parent [-]

> And I'm nitpicking, but each version of Windows 10 was its own release with a lifecycle of 1-2 years, like Ubuntu.

You must be fun at parties. /s

Yes you are right. Windows 10 had a lot of releases, more like the old service packs. And Windows 11 seems to follow the same strategy.

washadjeffmad 7 months ago | parent [-]

It's a pretty marked divergence from both their previous strategy and from the LTSBs, so I thought it bore a mention. I didn't realize there were explicit EOLs for each release, which I don't remember from the SPs.

jazzyjackson 7 months ago | parent | prev [-]

I wasn't making a point, just contradicting the assertion that we always knew the EOL

deletedie 7 months ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No - Windows 10 was initially pushed as the 'final version' of Windows. MS drove this home by saying 'Windows is a service' at each update.

They backtracked once they realised they're losing money by not having the sales bump from numbered upgrades i.e. the sales bump from planned obsolescence

whalesalad 7 months ago | parent | prev [-]

It's less about win10 expiring and win11 having such strict hardware requirements as to force you to buy new hardware.