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Kotlin feels like the Go 2.0 that the author is looking for in many ways. It is interesting that Kotlin hasn't fully taken off in the way you might expect.

Reflecting on my own reasons : it comes down to that I'm not particularly fond of IntelliJ and even less fond in principle of being critically dependent on a language that is only so controlled by a single vendor, and has poor IDE support outside that vendor's IDE. If I loved IntelliJ I might not care.

However I also find that there is still impedance mismatch with Java and it's just enough that I always just prefer to accept the warts of Java rather than use a language that is less known and supported.

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Macha 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> and has poor IDE support outside that vendor's IDE

Ironically, the IntelliJ support for Kotlin is also kind of weak.

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For the main point, Kotlin feels like something that would be anathema to a large group of Go devs who favor a small language. It's precisely the limits that viewpoint imposes that has meant Go is not my favorite language, but its clear that group is a big driver of Go's userbase.

	▲	zmmmmm 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> favor a small language Yes exactly - somehow internally it grates against my instinct that simpler is always better to have a bolt-on language that layers all its own classes and APIs on top of a host language. I feel like that just can't be better in the long run and it if it is better now it can only be a temporary state of affairs. But then, I also like Groovy which is kind of the ultimate version of a bolt on language, so maybe I am just ex post facto rationalising my internal preferences.