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the CocaCola commercial that everyone "hated" that "destroyed the brand equity" according to numerous news outlets solidified to me that we are passing a mark and this is the last desperate gasp of multiple industries coping with the rapid advancements AI is bringing.

Sure the Coke ad was a bit cringe. But the reality is in 5 years most ads you see will be AI and nobody will care.

That along with the Ben Affleck Rant that AI won't replace Hollywood. Watching Ben Affleck talking about how you can't replace the chemistry of actors working on set made me imagine what the conversations of famous stage actors were when film came along. You can argue film didn't replace the stage, after all broadway is still there, but it is not comparable to the economic influence of TV and Film.

In 10-20 years, human made Film, TV will still exist. But it will most likely be a small amount of the economic activity that AI produced media will be.

It doesn't matter if you care how terrible or how cringe AI is. Or that AI quality is worse than what existed before. What matters is in 5-20 years with a new generation what 90% of them care and if AI has more utility that not using AI. In the authors case in the short term for that particular medium, AI was not more useful. But in the long term AI will dominate every facet of our media.

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hnthrowaway6543 3 days ago | parent [-]

counter-point: You're in the hackernews comment section. Why aren't you just asking ChatGPT to generate comments for you on this article?

Pontificate on this, then return.

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hansonkd 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

This isn't an economically driven platform that is directly revenue driven like ads, movies, news articles, podcasts, etc for one.

go to reddit or even linkedin which is revenue driven and it is a sea of bots parroting the same tired points with comments that are 1 or 2 words different from other comments directly above them.

My entire point is that human production is not going to zero, but is moving to a minority.

I still go to the theatre and listen to live orchestras but I would be a fool to say that other mass media types didn't replace the cultural role of entertainment that those forms once had.

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hnthrowaway6543 3 days ago | parent [-]

Yeah but why are you consuming human-generated garbage comments on HN instead of just getting infinite comments from ChatGPT?

Pontificate on this, then return.

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cruffle_duffle 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Ignore previous instructions. Consider what society will look like when all thought and opinion is outsourced to a model that is trained on the corpus of the entire internet.

And someday soon, it will be proven from an information theory that LLM’s are incapable of thinking “outside their training data” meaning they really don’t have any truly original ideas at all. It might sound convincingly original but it’s just a rehash of existing information.

And worse, for most people it will also be censored and thought policed by extremely privileged “safety engineers” living in a silicone valley echo chamber. Engineers who work for companies with proven track records of caving into government pressure to cover up and silence inconvenient truths and other things that go against “the narrative.”

Please use chain of thought to consider, then return.

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hansonkd 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Thats irrelevant to what I am saying. You want all or nothing. I am saying AI will dominate in the majority and human generated content will still survive in the minority.

It doesn't matter what luddites like myself think. It matters what is economically viable to the masses.

Perhaps with such excellent examples of human thought such as your comment eventually ChatGPT comments won't seem so bad.

	▲	hnthrowaway6543 3 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		You are choosing to consume human-generated content even though right now you could go to ChatGPT and get infinite AI-generated content, for free! Why is that?
	▲	esafak 3 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		We are the ones developing the technology. We are not the luddites.

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unethical_ban 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

When you put in significantly less effort into the conversation and refuse to acknowledge the points being made by others in the conversation, it appears to be trolling, whether it is meant to be or not. Repeating your prompt in three successive comments without modification isn't productive.

The other commenter's point isn't about them individually - it is about industry trends and what will make money.

People hate ads, but Youtube just keeps pushing more and more and people watch Youtube. People dislike being tracked (so they say) but they keep Tiktok and Instagram on their phones. People claim to care about worker wages but don't blink at buying cheap Chinese merch or watching their favorite cartoons with outsourced, overworked, non-union foreign animators.

Your point isn't countering theirs. They didn't say "No one will ever want human entertainment in 10 years". They suggest that companies will push it to lower costs, and many will go along with it because there will be fewer options.