No, I'm talking about regular kids who grow up in hard circumstances that just need an opportunity for a better life.

This can mean a jump from working class to middle class and nothing more. That is absolutely driving society forward.

Not offering a means out of "the shit" for these kids is a way to hold them down into the circumstances they were born into and nothing more.

Zero kids I'm thinking of who went through these programs went to Yale or any other ivy. Most have great lives 20 years later, off the backs of that early opportunity for achievement.

I really do not think the modal case of social mobility is people in G&T programs, which definitionally only target the top N% of students