▲ | squarefoot 2 days ago | |||||||||||||
This. And the world isn't ready for that, including copyright laws that must be radically changed in a way that doesn't harm innovation. Suno v4 has become a complete disaster for some genres, and that could be due to the lawsuit that is forcing them to retrain the model using non copyrighted works, which in my opinion is pure bollocks. Imagine forcing an artist to unlearn what they listened to in their young years and contributed to forge their personal style. Sorry, but I'm pessimistic. If we don't change how copyright works, pretty much every development in the field will be ruined by greedy copyright holders and their lawyers as soon as it shows any capability to produce decent music that barely resembles something else. | ||||||||||||||
▲ | codedokode 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||
Should not the author be able to decide if his work may be used for generative AI? > Imagine forcing an artist to unlearn Mathematical models cannot learn. What happens in fact is the owner of generative AI takes a bunch of copyrighted works which took a lot of effort and money to produce (instruments, mics and other equipment is super expensive), puts it into computer and sells whatever the computer has calculated from those recording. Do you see any learning or any creativity here? There were cases when suno (or udio) was reproducing producer tags almost verbatim (but in lower quality) for example. This shows that the model was not simply calculating some probabilities of patterns of pitches, durations etc, but was storing the copyrighted content almost unmodified. Also, personally I have no interest in a service that generates a song for you because it takes away all the fun. Maybe something that helps to find mistakes in composed music and help learning would be much more useful. | ||||||||||||||
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▲ | Arainach 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||
>Sorry, but I'm pessimistic. If we don't change how copyright works, pretty much every development in the field will be ruined by greedy copyright holders and their lawyers Sorry, but I'm pessimistic. If we don't change how AI regulation works, pretty much every creative field will be ruined by greedy tech companies and their planet-burning plagiarism devices. |