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akimbostrawman 2 days ago

They (Japanese fiction) aren't trojan horses.

I'm not a search engine but ESG is basically corporate and government funding to include current year real world activism into media which is the antithesis of fiction.

myrmidon 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Alright, so the search engine told me that "ESG" is a set of criteria to rate sustainability of corporations/investments, where E stands for environment (ressource efficiency/non-pollution, ...), S for social (worker safety, non-discrimination, ...) and G for governance (risk management, compliance, anti-corruption). Please correct misconceptions.

You are suggesting that government pays writers to show those kinds of sustainability in a overly positive way?

How would western media look if it wasn't a trojan horse? Would it show slavery, environmental pollution and feudalism in a much more positive light? How can you be sure that the mismatch here is from goverment/corporate influence on writers, and not simply a difference in ethical values between the average writer and you?

akimbostrawman 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Its not just these three goals. Like the Patriot Act names rarely tell the full story.

>not simply a difference in ethical values between the average writer and you?

Because they only done this since its socially and commercially profitable?

myrmidon a day ago | parent [-]

> Because they only done this since its socially and commercially profitable?

You still did not tell me what those trojan horse writers are doing except that it is outside of the definition of "ESG score" that I provided.

What has become socially and commercially profitable?

akimbostrawman a day ago | parent [-]

Read a recent comic or do more than superficial googling or Wikipedia. If you can't tell then nothing I will say will help.

Cthulhu_ a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> How would western media look if it wasn't a trojan horse? Would it show slavery, environmental pollution and feudalism in a much more positive light?

The Boys does this, but ironically - but a lot of people apparently miss the point of it being ironic / a pisstake.

pjc50 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

ESG is for corporates. Authors are individuals. This is just "anti-woke" whinging by another (dimly related) name.

akimbostrawman a day ago | parent | next [-]

Authors especially comic ones are usually part of big publisher like Marvel or DC that own the IP and call the shots. They also have ESG scores and they decide which activism to include that increases the score and raises more investor or government funding.

Cthulhu_ a day ago | parent | prev [-]

A lot of authors are commissioned though, basically given a brief of what to write. More often than not in more commercial franchises though, e.g. Marvel, Warhammer, video game adaptations / tie-ins, Minecraft, Manning books, etc.

But that goes into the realm of commercial media, vs "artistic" media where authors can just do whatever they want, and maybe they'll find a publisher and get successful.

greenie_beans a day ago | parent | prev [-]

expecting corporate publishing to be a source of good art is a mistake. of course a corporation will adapt to the market. seems like you have a problem with the free market which is exploiting the desire for wokeness in culture.