| ▲ | Apple ordered to open up in-app purchases in Brazil(techcrunch.com) |
| 52 points by impish9208 3 days ago | 15 comments |
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| ▲ | alganet 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| There seems to be a lot of context missing from these articles. Mercado Libre has its own payment tech. They're like a latin american Amazon+Stripe. I don't know if that plays a role in what is being disputed, but it is worth mentioning. Mercado Libre also started distributing Disney+ content, similar to Prime. If you buy stuff often, you get a good discount in a Disney+ subscription. This seems to be related to the complaint about restrictions in digital content distribution. The whole interaction seems to be public (email exchanges and documents, in brazillian portuguese): https://sei.cade.gov.br/sei/modulos/pesquisa/md_pesq_process... |
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| ▲ | gary_0 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Otherwise, if the iPhone maker doesn’t comply, it faces fines of $43,000 per day. That's 0.016% of their income, if anyone was curious. |
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| ▲ | alganet 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | From what I could grasp of the official text, there seems to be more conditions. Apple must make the decision made by Cade public in their website, and also inform all iOS developers affected. The law which was used (L12529) also allows more aggressive fines (let's say 43.000 per day per iOS developer), or even suspension of services. But these were not mentioned in the decision. | | |
| ▲ | justinclift 2 days ago | parent [-] | | > and also inform all iOS developers affected. Yay (/s), that'll be another "Terms and Conditions" change from Apple that all registered Apple devs receive an email for and need to sign, regardless of the new terms, in order to continue having builds notarized. |
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| ▲ | knubie 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > That's 0.016% of their income, if anyone was curious. Is that 0.016% of their global income, or just in Brazil? | | |
| ▲ | lanna 2 days ago | parent [-] | | $43,000/0.00016 = $268,750,000 I doubt Apple sells that much a day in Brazil. |
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| ▲ | hu3 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > The Brazilian regulator has determined that Apple should allow app developers to link to external websites for subscriptions and digital purchases. Alternatively, the company could let developers take care of payment processing themselves. Is this like EU is trying/doing? |
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| ▲ | dagmx 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This will probably just follow their existing precedent in other countries like South Korea and Denmark (the latter limited to dating apps?). In those regions it’s just a reduction of 3% that covers the payment processing. So it’ll give more choice but not enough to drive a lot of adoption, since that’s the same or below what other payment processors take as well. |
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| ▲ | quitit 2 days ago | parent [-] | | While it goes give developers a choice - it favours large business who can obtain a better rate. The only pro to apple's model is that developers small and large were on equal competitive footing to consumers. While I believe it's good that developers have a choice, the reality is that this means that larger companies will always have better margins than small operators, helping solidify their position in the market. |
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| ▲ | op7 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | amarcheschi 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | The funny answer would be "god I wish so". A more serious answer is, monopolies in the long run are detrimental both for the economy and the general public as well. A company becoming so important that for an issue like this it could threaten to make phones bricks is already a bad signal, but they're not gonna do that cause they like those sweet pesky profits in Brazil and in the eu as well You think that apple can do whatever it wants on its platform because its their ip? Well then, I don't see why the eu and Brazil can't do whatever they want (perhaps this brings out how dumb the my platform my rules argument is) | |
| ▲ | dismalaf 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Foreign despots like the EU? Apple might be able to tell Brazil where to go but the EU is the world's second largest economy. | | |
| ▲ | matheusmoreira 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Apple might be able to tell Brazil where to go Doubt. Corporations who have folded before Brazil and its officials include Telegram, Meta, Google, and most recently Twitter. In fact the supreme court judges are debating regulation of social media literally right now. Yes, the judges legislate in this country. Last time Google tried to campaign against that by putting a link on their search page, they slapped it with a totally arbitrary hourly fine for the grave crime of "abusing their economic position". The fines kept coming until the link was gone. Just today I saw news about this. One of those judges was trying to calm down a Meta lawyer by reassuring him it was not an inquisition, only for the judge who shut down X to finish his sentence by saying "yet". It's not gonna stop, they're gonna steal millions from the american economy unless they call their White House contacts and get Trump to sanction this place. |
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