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guappa a year ago

Go is very boilerplate. It requires at least 3 lines of error checking every 1 line of actual code.

Also it doesn't have packed structs so it's completely incapable of doing low level networking or to handle binary files (you can of course do all the bitwise operations yourself… but is it sensible to use a language that is more error prone than C in 2024?).

Also due to its lack of A LOT of system calls, you will need to use modules written by someone on github, which will happily segfault if you look at them funny.

So now you have hidden memory management! Fun!

Of course if all you do with go is a glorified jq script… sure then it's kinda fine.

mrbadguy a year ago | parent | next [-]

I’m not sure I understand the packed structs complaint. I have used Go to read binary data and it’s quite easy. You just need to ensure that all of your struct fields have fixed sizes e.g. int32 or [4]int64 or whatever. Unless I’ve misunderstood what you mean?

guappa a year ago | parent [-]

Yes it works, but you can't state the endianness and you have no control to decide if the compiler will decide to insert padding. It's undefined.

You HOPE it works.

mrbadguy a year ago | parent [-]

I don’t know about the padding (certainly it never inserted any when I’ve used it) but you can definitely state the byte order upon reading or writing. That would definitely be an oversight. Take a look at the encoding/binary package:

https://pkg.go.dev/encoding/binary

guappa a year ago | parent [-]

I want a struct, not to having to write the code manually to do a struct every single time.

I know you can do that in go but as I already said: "more error prone than C".

mrbadguy a year ago | parent [-]

Can you please give me an example of what you don’t like? I’m not sure I understand the “write the code manually to do a struct” bit.

You have to define the struct for sure, but beyond that you just pass it to binary.Read and it comes back with the fields populated. I don’t see how you’d avoid defining the struct.

dfawcus a year ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How low level a networking use do you desire?

I certainly managed to use it to implement a protocol over UDP without any issues, that having byte and bit packed values.

Or do you wish to have something similar to C with structs and (endian dependent) bitfields overlaid on packet buffers?

guappa a year ago | parent [-]

> Or do you wish to have something similar to C with structs and (endian dependent) bitfields overlaid on packet buffers?

endian dependent until you tell gcc which endianness you want :) Which you can't do in go.

underdeserver a year ago | parent | prev [-]

I worked on a project with gopacket. It was completely fine.

guappa a year ago | parent [-]

Try defining a new packet format and ping me.