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You can call us poor programmers if that boosts your ego. The industry is still built upon people who can build fast. Go allows that and so does Javascript. You might not like it but that's what is earning most people their bread nowadays.

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instig007 2 days ago | parent [-]

> The industry is still built upon people who can build fast.

Correction: the commercial software is, not the industry. The industry and corporations are capitalising on quality open-source software, meticulously written off working hours with a straight head and passion, and a great attention to details. The fact that you can write glue fast enough to satisfy your SLT is predicated on the presence of those quality components you're gluing together for free.

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eru a day ago | parent | next [-]

Lot of open source software is written by people who get paid for doing so.

	▲	guappa 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		But most is not. Especially not the libraries that are so used. Some people in big projects are paid contributors, and some company open source some not so useful things as a marketing tool.

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abenga a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What, no quality tools exist written "with passion, and a great attention to details" in Go? *Doubt.

	▲	guappa 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It's a language that is not very used by hobbyists or skilled developers, so the amount of things written on go outside of working hours isn't as big.

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zwnow a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Commercial software is what pays my rent though. Why would I bother about open-source software other than personal interest?

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thot_experiment a day ago | parent [-]

You should bother because of the externalities that aren't captured by capitalism. Also OP never called anyone a poor programmer, he said the language was made FOR poor programmers. Rob Pike, one of the people who came up with golang (and unix) is quoted as saying:

> They’re typically, fairly young, fresh out of school, probably learned Java, maybe learned C or C++, probably learned Python. They’re not capable of understanding a brilliant language

Dude brought receipts, it doesn't get any clearer than the language creator stating his intent. Just because something is designed for idiots doesn't make you an idiot for using it.

In any case, you should probably read https://paulgraham.com/identity.html

	▲	zwnow 14 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sam Altman read a draft of this, I wont read anything that has to do with this idiot. Also poor programmers now equals idiots?