| ▲ | forrestthewoods a day ago |
| Because someone decides what language to write a new thing in is very likely to consider Go and Rust. They are very unlikely to consider Java. Are Rust and Go sufficiently different that they should each be chosen in different cases? Sure! But that’s literally why someone would consider both and pick one. |
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| ▲ | chikere232 a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| They should consider Java though. People have an irrational hate for it based on the enterprise cruft and horrible third party frameworks you can just completely ignore if you build a new thing It's not good for commandline stuff but for a long running small service it is pretty great |
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| ▲ | Mawr a day ago | parent | next [-] | | That's a big if. In practice you're not going to be able to escape needing to interface with Java code others have written. What then? You either waste time putting up shims in front of every single API or, more likely, give up and just go with it, at which point you've lost. It is much more practical to choose a language that does not have a terrible history of poor API design to begin with. | | |
| ▲ | chikere232 a day ago | parent [-] | | There are plenty of good libraries that don't suck you into a hellscape of frameworks or enterprise java What language that's been around for long enough to have a large ecosystem doesn't have a terrible history of poor api design? But sure, if you pick a really new language, you do get the chance to be that history for future generations |
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| ▲ | radicalbyte a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | ^ this! Java's far more capable than golang and a better choice for many projects.. just don't use the decades old "Enterprise" stuff. | |
| ▲ | radicalbyte a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | ^ this! Java's far more capable than golang and a better choice for many projects.. just don't use the decades old "Enterprise" stuff. ..and I'm generally a Java-hater as the language itself is objectively inferior to my beloved C#.. but even then there are situations where Java is a better choice. |
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| ▲ | surgical_fire a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > They are very unlikely to consider Java. Except they are not unlikely to consider Java. It's a language with a very robust ecosystem, it is relatively easy to hire Java developers, and a decent job for large, complex projects. |
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| ▲ | Slartie a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Not considering Java is just as dumb as not considering Go or Rust. |
