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koito17 7 months ago

Assuming "function that blocks" means "the carrier thread must wait for the function to return" and "the whole thing" means the carrier thread, then core.async doesn't really have this issue as long as e.g. a virtual thread executor is used.

There is a caveat where Java code using `synchronized` will pin a carrier thread, but this has been addressed in recent versions of Java.[1]

[1] https://openjdk.org/jeps/491

Blackthorn 7 months ago | parent [-]

The post I was replying to included explicit mention of ClojureScript, where this does not exist. As it did not for Java for most of core.async's existence. And of course, for virtual threads, that's very much "special support from the language"!

koito17 7 months ago | parent [-]

> where this does not exist

Because JavaScript runs an event loop on a single thread. It's akin to using GOMAXPROCS=1 or -Dclojure.core.async.pool-size=1 . There may be semantic differences depending on the JavaScript engine, but in the case of web browsers, the only function that could possibly stall the event loop is window.alert. As for Node.js, one would have to intentionally use synchronous methods (e.g. readFileSync) instead of the default methods, which use non-blocking I/O.

When using core.async in ClojureScript, one could use the <p! macro to "await" a promise. So there is no use for Node.js synchronous methods when using core.async (or using standard JavaScript with async/await).

I would call this "making use of the platform" rather than "special support from the language". The core.async library does not patch or extend the base language, and the base language does not patch or extend the platform it runs on.