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fragmede 4 days ago

Certs shouldn't still be done by hand that this point; if another heartbleed comes out in the next 7 days then the risk can be examined, escalated, and the CISO can overrule the freeze. If it's a patch for remote root via Bluetooth drivers on a server that has no Bluetooth hardware, it's gonna wait.

you're right that there's a grey line, but crossing that line involves waking up several people and the on call person makes a judgement call. if it's not important enough to wake up several people over, then things stay frozen.

kbolino 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

There's still a lot of situations where automatic certificate enrollment and renewal is not possible. TLS is not the only use of X.509 certificates, and even then, public facing HTTPS is not the only use of TLS.

It needs to get better but it's not there yet.

aaomidi 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Right, that's basically what I mean. There are a lot of automated changes happening in the background for services. I guess the whole thing I'm saying is that not every breakage is happening because of a code change.