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Klaus23 10 hours ago

This is simply not true. Let's look at the best autonomous driving features available today, i.e. level 3:

Mercedes Drive Pilot: Uses a lidar (and a dummy unit) up front.

BMW Personal Pilot: Uses a lidar (and a dummy unit) up front

Honda SENSING Elite: Uses 5! lidars

They all use lidar, and some of the placement locations are downright hideous (Mercedes EQS). I think further development will require even more/better sensors, and manufacturers tend to agree on this point.

ra7 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Chinese OEMs (BYD, Xaomi, Nio) use lidar in almost all of their mid to premium segments. Also, Polestar 3.

UltraSane 7 hours ago | parent [-]

How well do they work? Camera only systems can be easily blinded by sun, fog, dirt, and snow

asdasdsddd 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What are the benchmarks that say Mercedes, BMW, and Honda have the best level 3 features.

Klaus23 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I ignore the Chinese because it is difficult to get reliable English information. Apart from those, these are the only level 3 systems available, and level 3 is the most advanced system that private individuals can currently get their hands on. Have I missed any?

fragmede 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Don't forget Blue Cruise from Ford.

Klaus23 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Blue Cruise is level 2+, not 3, and does not rely on lidar.